Posts by Doug Mason

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Gods name

by Mr.logic in

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what is the correct spelling of gods proper name"yahweh or jehovah"?

if the jw's maintain that yahweh is more proper, why do they misspell it "jehovah"?

if the name of god is so important, then you should not only pronounce it correctly, but spell it correctly too.

Doug Mason

Hold-me,

Thank you for your comment. My purpose is to state what I believe. You have every right to disagree and you have every right to express your views.

I am most interested to know which are my sources that are you are referring to.

I am interested in writing a Study that sets out the reasons for my position and I would like to work with you on a project. My thought is that the Study would be in two parts, with each part presenting our respective positions.

You will find my email address at: http://www.jwstudies.com/contact_me.html

I give you my personal guarantee that I do not share confidences, which enables people to freely communicate with me.

Doug

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A LOOK BACK IN HISTORY. . . Australia: Kicking Jehovah's Witnesses out for being a "NATIONAL NUISANCE"

by TerryWalstrom in

teaser excerpt:.

the minister for the army, percy c spender, had requested a cabinet meeting to decide upon a ban of the sect on 9 december 1940, and he had enclosed with this request a military intelligence report dated 21 november 1940 recommending the banning of the witnesses.

cabinet would have been aware of pressure by the clergy, the returned sailors, soldiers and airman's imperial league of australia (rssaila), local councils and state politicians, particularly mr mairs threat to curtail the witnesses in new south wales if the commonwealth did not ban the sect.

Doug Mason

The "Smith's Weekly" newspaper ran a campaign against the JWs. At one stage I copied the pages, which are available at the State Library in Melbourne, but I now only have the dates of the publications ("somewhere").

Doug

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Governing Body

by Daym123 in

hello,.

i am currently in a discussion with a jw about the governing body.. i have read alot of articles regarding it, however whenever i bring up what i have read, i am refuted with scripture, such as acts 15, where they say there was a governing body, who sent out elders and men etc.. does anyone have a website that i may not know of, that has answers to what they refute with?

or any help here or good thought provoking questions to respond with would be much appreciated.. thank you kindly.

Doug Mason

I know my Studies are not light reading:

http://www.jwstudies.com/The_Watchtower_s_Achilles__Heel.pdf

http://www.jwstudies.com/2013_-_Did_a__Governing_Body__govern_Paul.pdf

Doug

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Gods name

by Mr.logic in

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friends

what is the correct spelling of gods proper name"yahweh or jehovah"?

if the jw's maintain that yahweh is more proper, why do they misspell it "jehovah"?

if the name of god is so important, then you should not only pronounce it correctly, but spell it correctly too.

Doug Mason

The Hebrews adopted the name "YHWH" (actually HWHY) from their neighbours.

YHWH was a minor warlike god, one of the pantheon of 70 gods ruled by the god name El. When the Hebrews adopted YHWH they gave him El's wife, Asherah. Archaeologists confirm this, as does the Biblical reference to the Asherah poles.

The Biblical records we read are of the group at Jerusalem who opposed that arrangement. They wanted only one god and they wanted all worship to be centred in Jerusalem. Any who opposed them is characterised as "evil", and the punishment at the hands of the mighty Babylonians was attributed by them to the actions of their opponents by worshiping Asherah, Ba'al, and so on.

Doug

A Jewess sings about "G-d"

by Doug Mason in

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not really certain exactly where to put this, but here goes:.

a song about god: https://youtu.be/s2v0lzumlri .

listen to the credits right through to the end.. doug.

Doug Mason

Not really certain exactly where to put this, but here goes:

A song about God: https://youtu.be/s2V0LZuMLrI

Listen to the credits right through to the end.

Doug

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Does your product contain blood? 1960/70's twottery!!

by punkofnice in

back in the 1960's early 70's i remember my congregation going on a witch hunt and making a list of products, ice creams, confectionary or anything that might contain blood!.

i remember one zealous brother asking an ice cream vendor if the ice cream contained blood.

the vendor just looked gone out!.

Doug Mason

What about vaccinations?

"As to the use of vaccines and other substances that may in some way involve the use of blood in their preparation, it should not be concluded that the Watch Tower Society endorses these and says that the practice is right and proper. However, vaccination is a virtually unavoidable practice in many segments of modern society, and the Christian may find some comfort under the circumstances in the fact that this use is not in actuality a feeding or nourishing process." (The Watchtower, November 1, 1961, page 670)

So injecting is not "feeding or nourishing"?

In the case of snake anti-venene, a horse has several litres of blood taken at a time.

Doug

I am looking for audios with Julius Mantey

by Doug Mason in

as i was going through stuff i have collected, i noticed a couple of audio cassettes advertised in "the scholastic dishonesty of the watchtower" (which i presume you all have).. one cassette is called, "the scholastic dishonesty of the watchtower", with michael van buskirk and julius mantey, while the other is of a 90-minute radio talk program with michael and julius interacting with the audience.. a very quick search located the following, but does not bring me any joy: http://www.worldcat.org/title/scholastic-dishonesty-of-the-watchtower/oclc/12118572.

any clues?.

also with michael's "dishonesty" booklet, i understand it is a chapter from his book, "the sandcastle of the jehovah's witnesses".. what can you tell me about that book?

Doug Mason

As I was going through stuff I have collected, I noticed a couple of audio cassettes advertised in "The Scholastic Dishonesty of the Watchtower" (which I presume you all have).

One cassette is called, "The Scholastic Dishonesty of the Watchtower", with Michael Van Buskirk and Julius Mantey, while the other is of a 90-minute radio talk program with Michael and Julius interacting with the audience.

A very quick search located the following, but does not bring me any joy: http://www.worldcat.org/title/scholastic-dishonesty-of-the-watchtower/oclc/12118572

Any clues?

Also with Michael's "Dishonesty" booklet, I understand it is a chapter from his book, "The Sandcastle of the Jehovah's Witnesses".

What can you tell me about that book? Is it available anywhere? Can I borrow a copy to scan it?

Thanks,

Doug

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MASTER'S THESIS on Charles Taze Russell's sources and ideas

by TerryWalstrom in

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a226955.pdf.

click on the above link and have a most enjoyable read!.

below, the opening paragraph.

Doug Mason

A great find, Terry!

But to look only at Russell's attitude towards Christianity masks the other dominating feature of his ministry: he was a determined believer in the restoration of the Jews to their home in Palestine. This cannot be overstated.

Russell was absolutely determined that Lev 26 showed that in 1914, the Jews would be restored to become the world's dominant nation, to being restored to God's favour, I recognise, of course, that this lies outside the scope of the thesis you uncovered.

I note that the bibliography includes the book by Horowitz. I have to say that I am somewhat disappointed in Horowitz's book in that he does not provide pages numbers of the sources he refers to.

Good work, Terry.

Doug

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Rutherford, Knorr or Franz - Who has the most influence on doctrine & process now?

by konceptual99 in

so, i was thinking - who of the above still has the most influence on current wts doctrine and dogma?.

rutherford obviously created the smokescreen around 1914/607 but overall his work has been superseded i would suggest.. knorr created the various schools and they or their offspring still live on.

wasn't it during his tenure that all the blood doctrine, types/anti types (now chucked away of course), transplants etc came along?

Doug Mason

My guess is Rutherford. He utterly changed Russell's ideas in the areas of "doctrine" and "organization". None of the others who followed introduced the massive turnaround that he achieved.

Imagine what it would be like if someone were to take the present "teachings" and "organization" and then return these to those which existed under Russell. That would give an idea of the enormity of what Rutherford did.

Even today, the WTS worships Rutherford's 1919 experience as being "the moment" when Jesus selected them out of all people on earth. It worships Rutherford's inventions, such as: the name "Jehovah's witnesses", the identification of "the Great Crowd", and the "theocratic" arrangement. Who else has made such sweeping changes? Rutherford dropped Russell's key focus on the Return of the Jews to Palestine. Russell was lauded as the most influential Christian Zionist. It was a key plank in his Divine Plan.

Even the "no-blood" doctrine, although opening up in 1945 under Franz, had its genesis in the quackery that existed in the 1930s under Rutherford's watch.

That's my opinion. Known to be wrong before,

Doug

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Was Jesus a real person?

by Coded Logic in

why didn't jesus ever write anything?

why are there no letters to jesus?

no painting of jesus from that time?

Doug Mason

Very few people could read and even fewer could write.

Jesus (Yeshua/Joshua) was from a rural setting, not from the class that depended on writing. Fishermen such as Simon/Peter would not have been able to read or write even in his own language (Aramaic) and this is one reason we know he did not write the epistles attributed to him, especially as they are written in good quality Greek.

Paul was a different item. He was of the Diaspora, not from Judea, he was a learned person, imbued no doubt with Greek/Roman philosophy and he was a Roman citizen. His writings are the earliest of the NT writings and because his followers came to the ascendancy, his writings and those of his followers dominate the writings that his followers in the 4th century decided were Scripture.

Community-wide communicating by writing is a modern phenomenon.

Doug